In episode 013 of the Hoosier United Methodist Podcast Dr. Brad Miller has a conversation with Rev. Glenn Howell the Senior Pastor at Zionsville United Methodist Church on all things leadership. Glenn has served the Indiana Conference as a church planter and district superintendent and currently serves one of the larger congregations in the annual conference. Glenn and Brad discuss leadership in the local church in terms of recruitment, training, and mentoring of leaders as well as developing workable succession plans to keep forward movement in the local church. Glenn speaks about the importance of the “nuts and bolts” of management in the local church is the implementation piece which must follow great vision in order for the local church to be effective in achieving its mission. Glenn also offers his views on the state of the church in Indiana and tells a great golf story about “stealing sand” from the Augusta National Golf course.